17 U.S. Code § 107 - Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use
Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include—
(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes [all mirrored content falls under this clause, any ads present are mirrored from the original site, mirrored content earns me no revenue whatsoever];
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work [this is a unique resource for the mentally ill, and preservation of it can be argued to be incredibly important];
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work. [absolutely none whatsoever, as the original work no longer exists anywhere else (outside of whatever bits and pieces archive.org managed to capture) - the original site was intermittantly completely unavailable for a extended period of time before its SSL certificate expired (and was never renewed), and eventually the site went offline for good, then finally the DNS records were removed at some point prior to May 2018, so at this point it is well beyond the 'dead and rotting' stage]
The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.

This domain is not controlled by Jerod Poore, and I will NOT continue redirecting traffic from this domain to crazymeds.us [as I formerly did] while Jerod continues with his immature temper tantrum over adblock or continues to fail to maintain his site, fucking over his entire community and countless visitors in the process. [belated clarification: with specific regards to the adblock drama I was referring to Poore at one point replacing his entire site with a single page complaining about the amount of revenue lost to users with ad blocking active, which is something that I took extreme exception to because this affected ALL visitors to the site regardless of if or if not they were actually using ad blocking]
This mirror is unfortunately incomplete (and very slightly outdated), as /CrazyTalk/ was not included when I scraped the site (it was far too large to scrape given the site's extremely poor performance, my wish to avoid worsening the poor performance further, and other factors). If you're looking for a replacement forum, I suggest visiting https://www.crazyboards.org/forums/. There are issues with many of the mirrored pages, I am working on identifying and fixing them, but I do not have the time to address every single issue at this moment (although by now the majority of these issues have been resolved). Dynamic content is obviously completely broken (this is beyond my control), and the loss of /CrazyTalk/ is quite bad given how much good user-generated info was on there, but you have Jerod to "thank" for that. Maybe I'll bring it back online at some point, but it wouldn't be the same as before. For now, I suggest visiting CrazyBoards instead.
Note (Oct 9 2018): Infrequent additional updates regarding the status of this site will be posted on https://info.crazymeds.net

User Agreement

Highlights for the overwhelmed:

1) Try to use paragraph breaks, the text equivalent of a good deep breath, when writing posts.  Especially when asking questions.

2) Don’t be an asshole.

3) No spamming, libel, hate speech, porn, or wholesale posting of copyrighted material.  The rules of most online communities regarding this sort of thing are essentially the same, and Crazy Talk is no different.

4) While you agree to refrain from hate speech and obscene material, you don't have to watch your fucking mouth all the time, nor do we require one to always use politically correct terms to describe one's fellow nutjobs.

5) Your screen name cannot be the name of anyone who is well-known, unless they are dead, fictional, or both.  Your screen name cannot imply that you are a healthcare professional.

6) No questions about or discussions of combining prescription medications with illegal/recreational/street drugs, or medical marijuana/cannabis.

7) No questions about or discussions of unproven or otherwise illegitimate (AKA quack) treatments or “cures.”

8) No questions or any information about, or links to specific online pharmacies or other non-traditional ways of obtaining medications.

9) If you don't log on at least once a year your account will expire.  You can always re-register.

10) Only one account per person and one person per account.

Don’t complain to me if you were banned for repeatedly and/or grossly violating rules you didn’t read but still agreed to.  These are pretty fucking simple to follow.

Detailed terms for those who have it somewhat together:

1) You agree that you are responsible for the contents of what you post.  We strive for accuracy in the information that we share and as much clarity as possible in the questions we ask.  Try to cite where your information comes from – the Crazymeds General Bibliography is where I get most of my information if I’m not citing a specific paper.  Personal experience is fine - your experiences with medications and conditions can be valuable information – just tell us what you’re basing as a base for whatever you’re writing.   And please, for the love of all that is holy, try to use paragraph breaks - the text equivalent of a good deep breath - when asking questions.

2) You agree that you will not engage in personal attacks upon, or harass other forum members.  Personal attacks upon or harassing of forum moderators (AKA Citizen Medical Experts) is especially not allowed.  Doing either will get you a warning with a time-out from posting or visiting the forum, or immediately banned depending on the nature of the attack, the target, or what state the life of the moderator who notices the bad behavior happens to be.  So it is best not to piss us off in this regard.  Repeated attacks or harassment will get you banned regardless.  Other behavior that pisses me off to no end that could result in a warning, time-out, or ban:

a. Repeatedly opening duplicate topics in different parts of the board.  It’s OK if your topic is ‘misfiled’ in the wrong forum (to some extent, see below), a moderator can always move it.  Open just one.

b. Repeatedly opening a topic about the same thing over and over.  Asking the same question in a different way until you get the answer you like doesn’t go down well here.  It’s also a bad way to live.

c. Repeatedly opening topics in the “Generic Forum Crap” section that have nothing to do with the forum itself.  If you’re too lazy to scroll down to the appropriate forum to open a topic, find another site that is all miscellaneous topics all the time.

d. Repeatedly posting content-free posts to bump a topic to the top.  This isn’t a chat room; things take time.  If no one has anything to write there may be no answer to your question, or it has been answered so often no one has bothered to do more than glance at what you wrote.  Remember to read the appropriate pages on the medication wiki first!  

3) You agree that you will not engage in any of the activities that are usually prohibited on the vast majority of fora / bulletin boards / online communities:

a. You will not spam (i.e. repetitive posts or personal messages advertising something or otherwise annoying us) or write posts that are essentially ads. You may have discrete ads for non-pharmacy-related goods or services in your signature. Such ads, promotions, etc. may still be removed or altered at the discretion of the moderators.

b. You will not post someone else's intellectual property outside of fair use guidelines.

c. You will not post anything that is libel (i.e. knowingly false and/or defamatory of another person), abusive, hate speech, obscene (especially porn), threatening, invasive of a person's privacy (e.g. real name if said person chooses to be anonymous, address, etc), or otherwise violates the laws of the United States.

d. You agree to not copy text or images, outside of fair use guidelines, to other sites without the express permission of the author.  So if it is a post on the forum, you'll have to ask whoever wrote it (see the section on former members) for permission.  As for within the forum, you agree that other members may copy your text and images entirely to use as quotes for their own posts.

e. As for text, images and other intellectual property found elsewhere on Crazymeds, you can post that all over the forum.  If you want to post it somewhere else and it’s outside of fair use guidelines just contact me for permission to use it on sites.

4) While you agree to refrain from hate speech and obscene material, you don't have to watch your fucking mouth all the time, nor do we require one to always use politically correct terms to describe one's fellow nutjobs.  As the owner of crazymeds.net I am not "A person with bipolar disorder."  I am not "A person with epilepsy." I am not "A person with Asperger's spectrum disorder."  I'm an uberspazz.  I'm mentally interesting.  I'm not just crazy, I'm batshit crazy.  I'm bipolar.  I'm epileptic.  I put the ass in Asperger's.  If you don't like the way we make the terms our own so they don't hurt any more, or you can't deal with naughty words that are sometimes the only way to accurately describe the side effects of an incorrectly prescribed medication, we suggest someplace safe like bipolar.about.com

5) Your screen name cannot be the name of anyone who is well-known.  If you happen to have the same name as someone famous and, for whatever reason, want to use your real name, I’ll need to see something that proves your name really is “Barrack Obama” or whatever.  E.g. sending me a copy of your driver's license, passport, etc.  Otherwise using that person's name falls under either or both the invasion of privacy and libel prohibitions.  Because said person may not wish to be outed as mentally interesting and are ashamed of such, or they are not mentally interesting.     

a. Any name you use must not imply that you are a healthcare professional.  If you really are a health care professional, please keep it to yourself.  Obviously satirical names generally will not be a problem.  E.g. Nurse Ratched (already taken) or Dr. Benway (surprisingly still available as of this writing).

b. The same applies to your signature, on your blog, or anywhere else on the site you self-identify.  I don't care if you really are a doctor, nurse, pharmacist, therapist or whatever.  As far as Crazymeds is concerned you're just another consumer with a neurological and/or psychiatric condition, or other physical condition treated by the drugs discussed on this site.

6) You agree to limit your discussion of legal or illegal recreational/street drugs (e.g. alcohol, MDMA, marijuana/cannabis) to your personal history.

a. No questions about or discussions of combining prescription medications with illegal/recreational/street drugs.  There is a page on the medication wiki about mixing booze with crazy meds.  The discussion of alcohol and neurological and psychiatric drugs is essentially limited to: Is it OK to have a small amount of alcohol with the medication I’m taking?  Even though that question is essentially answered on the aforementioned wiki page.  If you’re the occasional user of something else, ask over at erowid.org  I personally don’t have a problem with the recreational use of some substances, but this isn’t the place to discuss it.

b. No questions about or discussions of how to get doctors to write prescriptions for drugs that would be more fun than useful in treating a medical condition.  The latter earns you an immediate ban.

c. No questions about or discussions of medical marijuana/cannabis.  This just isn’t the place for it.  I’m all for the complete re-legalization of marijuana.  I recognize that it has some legitimate medical uses (e.g. dealing with the side effects of oncology chemotherapy).  When it comes to most brain cooties it does more harm than good, and the discussion of it turns into a holy war that starts taking over sites.

7) No questions about or discussions of unproven treatments, AKA quack cures or quackery.  While one person’s quackery may be another person’s salvation, Crazymeds is all about evidence-based treatments.  There are some legitimate treatments for mental illness you can buy at GNC, like high omega 3 fish oil for depression; but vitamins and minerals will not effectively treat, let alone cure bipolar disorder or schizophrenia.   We do discuss supplements as ways to deal with side effects, or as add-ons to real medication.

8) You agree not to post questions or any information about, or links to specific online pharmacies, nor anything regarding how one goes about obtaining prescription medications without a prescription.  We do discuss the pros and cons of ordering medications online and from countries outside of where one lives, just not from specific vendors.  Ordering medications without a prescription could fall under the heading of "drug seeking behavior," and we don't tolerate that.  Depending on the content and context of such posts they could result in anything from a gentle reminder to an immediate ban.

a. Including links to online pharmacies in your signature. Links to pharmacies in your signature marks you as a spammer. Consider your account closed and your being banned.

b. You agree not to post questions or discuss exchanging left-over medications.  While it is legal for someone who has a prescription for a medication to get that medication from anyone, it’s illegal for regular people to dispense medications.  It is highly illegal for regular people to mail medications that are designated as controlled substances with schedules of 4 or less (e.g. benzodiazepines, stimulants, and hypnotics like Ambien).  And if money is involved there is going to be jail time involved if you’re caught.

c. It isn’t quite as illegal to mail schedule V drugs (which are practically all crazy meds that aren’t benzos, stimulants, or hypnotics) that are past their expiration date (usually one year) but not their shelf life (which would typically be two to three years after you filled your prescription).  Especially if no money or anything else of value is exchanged for the old medications.  The DEA isn’t all that concerned about somebody sending an old bottle of Paxil through the mail to someone else who is broke and about to run out.  You just can’t discuss that sort of thing on a public forum.

9) To keep your account active, all we ask is that you log on once every 12 months or so.  You don't have to post, just logging on is enough to let us know that you are still alive.  You agree that if you don't log on at least once a year your membership is subject to termination.

a. You agree to keep a valid e-mail address associated with your account. If your e-mail address becomes invalid - as indicated by frequent e-mail notifications of private messages (PMs) and posts to topics you're following returning as not being delivered (bounced) - your account will be terminated.
b. You agree that if you become a former member, e.g. you are banned, you resign your membership, or you let your membership lapse due to inactivity, the ownership of your intellectual property is transferred to the owners of crazymeds.net .  Don't ask us to delete your posts after you leave, as that is too late.

c. You agree that if you create a new account for some reason and you again become a former member (your old account lapses after 12 months, etc.) your old intellectual property still transfers to the owners of crazymeds.net . It’s still too late to ask us to delete the posts of your old account.

10) Only one active account per person and one person per account.  If you had an account before that was closed due to inactivity and create a new one, that counts as having only one account.  If you did something like change your e-mail address, forgot your password, then created a new account, that’s life.  We could merge the two accounts if we’re sure it’s the same person and not a stalker.

a. Creating multiple accounts to get around a ban won’t work.  I’ve been doing this for ten years.

b. We have a couple of accounts used for testing reported bugs and new features, but everyone else gets just one.

c. There is an exception to this rule: interpreters.  Some people are unable to use a computer/tablet/smart phone.  Lots of people don’t speak English.  Anyone who wishes to open an account for someone who is otherwise unable to use this site may do so, even if they already have an account here, as an interpreter for someone else.  I ask that you put something in your signature to indicate that it is an interpreter account.

d. You may now ask questions about other people.  It's pretty useless, other than making the person asking the question feel more in control over their life, but go ahead and ask.  Why is it useless?  Because it's hard enough for you to communicate over the Internet what is going on inside your head.  It's vastly more difficult for you to tell us what the problem is with someone else.


If you are banned, for whatever reason, that's it.  Don't bother asking to be unbanned.  Don't even bother sending me e-mail as I won't read it.  Over the last 10 years we've learned that second chances are a very bad idea.  Sorry.

This user agreement is subject to modification as circumstances dictate.  You agree that you'll just have to live with the new rules.  As this big-ass sucker is posted on the forum, and there will be a link to find it as well, and the new and improved rules may get posts of their own, the changes will be easy enough to find.  You agree that if you don't like the new rules you can bitch and moan to yourself until you can deal with the changes, or go elsewhere.  Life isn't fair.


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