17 U.S. Code § 107 - Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair use
Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified by that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use), scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. In determining whether the use made of a work in any particular case is a fair use the factors to be considered shall include—
(1) the purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is of a commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes [all mirrored content falls under this clause, any ads present are mirrored from the original site, mirrored content earns me no revenue whatsoever];
(2) the nature of the copyrighted work [this is a unique resource for the mentally ill, and preservation of it can be argued to be incredibly important];
(3) the amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the copyrighted work as a whole; and
(4) the effect of the use upon the potential market for or value of the copyrighted work. [absolutely none whatsoever, as the original work no longer exists anywhere else (outside of whatever bits and pieces archive.org managed to capture) - the original site was intermittantly completely unavailable for a extended period of time before its SSL certificate expired (and was never renewed), and eventually the site went offline for good, then finally the DNS records were removed at some point prior to May 2018, so at this point it is well beyond the 'dead and rotting' stage]
The fact that a work is unpublished shall not itself bar a finding of fair use if such finding is made upon consideration of all the above factors.

This domain is not controlled by Jerod Poore, and I will NOT continue redirecting traffic from this domain to crazymeds.us [as I formerly did] while Jerod continues with his immature temper tantrum over adblock or continues to fail to maintain his site, fucking over his entire community and countless visitors in the process. [belated clarification: with specific regards to the adblock drama I was referring to Poore at one point replacing his entire site with a single page complaining about the amount of revenue lost to users with ad blocking active, which is something that I took extreme exception to because this affected ALL visitors to the site regardless of if or if not they were actually using ad blocking]
This mirror is unfortunately incomplete (and very slightly outdated), as /CrazyTalk/ was not included when I scraped the site (it was far too large to scrape given the site's extremely poor performance, my wish to avoid worsening the poor performance further, and other factors). If you're looking for a replacement forum, I suggest visiting https://www.crazyboards.org/forums/. There are issues with many of the mirrored pages, I am working on identifying and fixing them, but I do not have the time to address every single issue at this moment (although by now the majority of these issues have been resolved). Dynamic content is obviously completely broken (this is beyond my control), and the loss of /CrazyTalk/ is quite bad given how much good user-generated info was on there, but you have Jerod to "thank" for that. Maybe I'll bring it back online at some point, but it wouldn't be the same as before. For now, I suggest visiting CrazyBoards instead.
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1.  Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics

Overall traffic has been getting a lot better as I’m making more of the site less mobile-hostile. Giving the people what they want by breaking up the medication articles into smaller, more ad-rich pages is the way to go!

It still doesn’t help that either someone at Google is manually fucking with the search results, or it’s the Algorithm that first puts pages in the top ten results then, a week or two later, them down 20 (or more) slots the rankings, or even removes them entirely from the search results. But they show up in the top ten on Google’s mobile searches. And on scholar.google.com. And on Bing searches. I’ve been on Scientology’s shitlist for over 20 years, and there are plenty of pitiful sociopaths whose lives suck more than mine and have nothing better to do than try to make my life worse than theirs. Good luck with that, fat-assholes. I may be a loner who lives on the fringe of civilization, but at least I have children and other people who actually care about me. Nothing you do can change that. My health sucks syphilitic donkey dong, but I’m not leaving oily rectal seepage on the chair in my cubicle, nor paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to learn that I mock up my reactive mind or how to use my Thetan hand to swat bugs at the distance a flyswatter could easily reach.

Here’s some evidence of pages being removed from The Index. I’ve never requested a page to be removed:

Yet two pages were removed:

I’ve never received any e-mail from Google saying I’ve been naughty, so whatever is going on isn’t official. I have all sorts of screen captures of wildly different results for the same search within days1.

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1.1  Traffic Jamming

Google Analytics’ numbers, which directly counts only those people with java enabled browsers - and estimates the numbers for those with java turned off - who visit wiki and forum-related pages. Feel free to sort this table by any column that appeals to you:

MonthVisitsDaily AvgUnique VisitorsDaily AvgPageviewsDaily AvgPages/VisitAvg StayAd ImpressionsPage Imps


If you look at the stats AwStats has been collecting you can see the actual number of people who visit this site, including the hundred or so a month who do nothing more than grab PI sheets and other documents without looking at a single ad-rich page. Since installing the question & answer challenge and other security measures we are no longer inundated with Ukrainian spammers registering 20 (or more) automatically-banned accounts.

1.2  You Can Count on Alexa not Being Able to Count

I’ve found the source of the huge discrepancy in the traffic numbers between Alexa, Google Analytics, and Awstats: how they count forum traffic. Awstats includes people using the Tapatalk app, Google doesn’t appear to be and Alexa certainly doesn’t. In fact, Alexa misses a huge amount of forum traffic, despite my having the code on all of the forum skins and giving the Alexabot free rein to crawl where it wants. First we’ll compare the traffic numbers for the top twenty-five pages on the site for March according to Alexa and Google:

Alexa’s Top 25Google’s Top 25

The numbers for wiki pages (everything with /pmwiki/pmwiki.php/ in the URL) are close enough for the two. Alexa still undercounts, but not by much. The big difference is in the forum (URLs with /CrazyTalk/). For the pages displayed there’s a difference of about 8,000 pageviews. The true extent of the discrepancy is easily seen in the total percentage of pageviews. Both Alexa and Google have the same top three wiki pages: the Home Page, Wellbutrin, and the Medication List. Alexa shows they account for 4.7%, 1.9%, and 1.3% respectively, while Google gives them 3.89%, 1.65%, and 1.08%.

Why doesn’t Alexa count all the forum traffic? The last time the Alexabot crawled the site it didn’t crawl anywhere near all the pages there are, but that doesn’t explain the difference in URLs that show up in both Alexa and Analytics. I’m stumped.

The nearly-3,000 views of Site.Login represent a combination of people trying to crack the wiki and a frequent error that happens when someone accesses the wiki from more than one IP address. I didn’t know it was that bad. Fortunately I’ve been able to deal with both situations.

Now let’s look at Awstats, which counts things somewhat differently:

What Awstats considers an URL can be a bit weird. You can’t get to the wiki’s css or IPB internals directly from a browser. URLs with mobiquo in them are for the Tapatalk app2. As to why there are more than twice as many hits on the Tapatalk welcome banner than on the app setup, my guess is some people use both Tapatalk on a smart phone and another device to read the forum. The forum remembers what you used last, and Tapatalk knows if you’re on a smartphone or not, so there’s a lot of redirecting going on.

Google and Alexa also missed all the traffic at the site’s WordPress blog. Especially all the annoying little 1337 4aX0rs who keep trying to crack the admin panel. Not counting those asswipes is actually a feature, and not a bug, on the part of Alexa and Google. There were a couple thousand legitimate pageviews of the blog that Google and Alexa completely missed3, but it’s pretty fucked-up that the most popular page of the blog was attempts to crack it. Why fucking bother? I’ve also fixed that problem.

Weird or not, I think Awstats’ numbers are much closer to reality because they jive with AdSense’s. I have channels for different meds and other pages, so I’m able to get revenue figures for individual pages and groups of pages. Nearly all of the most popular pages are part of ad channels that consist of multiple pages, but not all of them. So here are the AdSense page impressions for some of the top pages with a single page in a channel:

PagePage Views
Home Page47,137

How do those figures jive with Awstats’?

  1. AdSense won’t be counting smartphones for individual pages, so anyone visiting a page with a smartphone won’t be showing up here.
  2. The way the wiki handles the difference between upper- and lower-case URLs means the two are counted separately. There weren’t many people who landed on main/homepage, but Awstats found 1,099 meds/effexor pageviews. Analytics, though, was able to track only 7. With meds/celexa the difference was only 295 and 3.
  3. Which makes Awstats’ count for Effexor 7,341 and Celexa 3,756.

Factor in ad blocking and smartphones and you can see why I think Awstats are the real numbers for visitors, pageviews, etc.

1.3  Smells Kinda Rank

Because of Alexa’s inability to count forum traffic, they under-reported 60K unique visitors and 2M pageviews for May 2015, I’ve decided to stop doing their job for them. I’ve pulled their code from the site. Whatever Alexa reports is now as accurate as any other website valuation service.

Another indicator of relative popularity is something you normally need to have installed in your browser to see, the Google Page Rank:

The above is, fortunately, the Page Rank for the home page, and not this page. For those of you who give a rat’s ass about such things (i.e. you earn a living off of your website or pretend to know how to help people make money off teh InterGoogles) let Google explain how it works:

PageRank works by counting the number and quality of links to a page to determine a rough estimate of how important the website is. The underlying assumption is that more important websites are likely to receive more links from other websites.

If you want to see the complicated math behind it, see this Wikipedia page. “Quality” is highly subjective, as lots of pages with less traffic and fewer links have higher page ranks than Crazymeds. Why? Because those sites aren’t about being mentally interesting. Or if they are, the sites are by and for those nutjobs who know their place in society, and are linked to by sites usually run by and for “family, friends and caregivers”, or newspapers that spread misinformation about vaccines causing autism or outright disinformation about chocolate bars accelerating weight loss, instead of trashy sites by and for mentally interesting scumbuckets like you and me. Quality!

At the top and bottom of each page there are buttons to share or like it via Facebook, Google plus, and every other social media/bookmarking/whatever service there is via AddThis. It would really, really help if you flag every page you’ve found helpful and/or entertaining with a G+ and/or a Facebook share. I realize there is a hell of a lot of stigma attached to having brain cooties, and a share on Google+ and Facebook, unlike those in AA, is fairly public, whereas a like is much less so. Which is why I have both options available. If you don’t have, or don’t wish to use either one of those accounts, perhaps you can use another social bookmarking service. I cover the differences between share and like, and go into more detail about all the different services on the support page. There are some glaring omissions detailed below.

1.4  Missing Links

I now have data about links from enough sources to go into more detail about them.

Trying to get an accurate count of the number of links in is akin to getting the average half-life of Lamictal, everyone has a different number and I don’t like any of them. Why the huge differences? My guesses:

  • For backlinks Google does a “link:” search, which is utterly useless. I know there are far more than 38 freaking links. The same results are returned, give or take a few, for link:crazymeds.com, link:crazymeds.org, as well as for specific URLs.
  • Google’s Webmaster Tools (WT) and Treato, which is a healthcare forum aggregator, have rationalized how they count links. Treato has over 249k links, and they fixed a lot of duplicates, dropped links to topics that are really old, closed, deleted, etc. and, most importantly, hits on meds that showed up in user profiles.
    • No, there aren’t quite that many topics in the forum. There are 177K posts. Taking into account significantly different queries that will land you on the same posts, a link-to-post ratio of 1.5:1 seems reasonable.
    • Removing all the posts that have nothing to do with meds and it’s closer to 2:1. Still fairly reasonable.
    • While getting better about it, Google still ends up counting links from many WordPress and BlogSpot blogrolls multiple times.
  • Bing has its own WT, and it probably counts links in a similar way to Google’s.
    • Except more accurately.
  • I have no idea how SEOmoz and Majestic SEO go about determining links.
    • SEOMoz no longer aggregates all the links. The number entered is the total links to the top 50 pages.
  • My guess is the actual number of valid, hard links to Crazymeds, excluding the Treato links to the forum, is in the neighborhood of 60–70K.
    • Which explains why almost all of the meds still show up in the top ten results for Bing, Google mobile searches, Google Scholar, and for short periods of time in regular Google, but eventually no longer do in the regular Google searches, right?
      • Assuming they still show up at all.
    • And why all sorts of pages with lower SEO scores now show up ahead of Crazymeds pages in Google.
    • Has to be the Algorithm. There’s no way someone is manually messing with the search ranking.
    • Just because a mechanism exists to do that when someone breaks the rules (using linkfarms, e.g.) doesn’t mean anyone would ever use for a malicious reason.
    • Anybody who works at the “don’t do evil” company could never even contemplate doing such a thing.
      • I mean, just because there are people with an anti-med agenda who are constantly rating meds as 0 from masked IPs
      • And we frequently deal with bruteforce attacks trying to crack into the software and even the server itself
      • But manually altering the search results? Just because it can be done, and there’s no mechanism to even investigate if it happened, doesn’t mean someone will do it, right?

2.  The People Like Us

Sites with sites supposedly like Crazymeds:

  • moreofit. moreofit uses tags to determine similarity. This has a lot of advantages and a few disadvantages. You do get a large number of really-to-not-so similar sites interspersed with entries that make it look a lot crappier than it really is. Such as the most similar site being crazymeds.org, numerous entries for Merck (although what little there is of the Merck Manual is certainly similar) and other members of Big Pharma.
    • The thing that annoys the living fuck out of me is they don’t define what they mean by “popularity.”

2: Popularity
The popularity of a website is, well, pretty much self explanatory[sic]. -- moreofit.com “About These Results” help box

  • No, it is not “self-explanatory.” What’s the scale? What’s the source? Absolute or relative? Just because absolute is more likely doesn’t mean that’s how you coded it.
  • Top Alternate. The grammar is a bit clunky and the selection isn’t as good as moreofit, but they have great idea of what “alternate” actually means, which makes it worth looking at. I can’t think of a more dissimilar site than the fear-mongers, but they are certainly an alternative to us on the subject of psychiatric chemotherapy. They are also one of very few sites that, when they indicate such a thing, noticed our content may not be appropriate for little kids! I love it when people pay attention. Plus you get to rate how alike or not a site is.

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3.  Certifiably Crazy

In addition to our Health on the Net accreditation, Crazymeds meets a few other standards. It’s far easier to get high scores on these than not, but looking at these sites will show you we don’t have any computer cooties.

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1 I've posted about this on the less-than-helpful product forum. For some reason my questions keep getting flagged as having been answered.

2 Since I don't see mobiquo URLs anywhere in Alexa's or Google's reports I assume they don't count them. Hence one of the large discrepancies is explained.

3 I don't see a blog URL anywhere in Alexa's or Google's reports, so I know those aren't getting counted. Google wasn't counting blog traffic because I didn't have the plugin installed for WordPress, so that's been corrected and Google is now counting blog traffic. I did have the Alexa plugin installed. If Alexa requires its code to be the absolute final code in the <head> section of the HTML code they need a reality check. Other plugins exist. I've deactivated everything that got loaded after it. It's too soon to tell if it's counting blog traffic. Google is probably under-reporting, because I had to tweak the plugin to put the code in a sub-optimal location so it wouldn't get in the way of that diva Alexa's obsessive need to be the absolute last thing loaded in the HTML <head> section.

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The information on Crazymeds pertains to and is intended for adults. While some information about children and adolescents is occasionally presented (e.g. US FDA approvals), pediatric-specific data such as dosages, side effects, off-label applications, etc. are rarely included in the articles on drugs or discussed on the forum. If you are looking for information regarding meds for children you’ll have to go somewhere else. Plus we are big pottymouths and talk about S-E-X a lot.
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Nobody on this site is a doctor, a therapist, or a pharmacist. We don’t portray them either here or on TV. Only doctors can diagnose and treat an illness. While it’s not as bad as it used to be, some doctors still get pissed off by patients who know too much about medications, so tread lightly when and where appropriate. Diagnosing yourself from a website is like defending yourself in court, you suddenly have a fool for a doctor. Don’t be a cyberchondriac, thinking you have every disease you see a website about, or that you’ll get every side effect from every medication1. Self-prescribing is as dangerous as buying meds from fraudulent online pharmacies that promise you medications without prescriptions.
All information on this site has been obtained from the medications’ product information / summary of product characteristic (PI/SPC) sheets and/or medication guides - which is all you get from sites like WebMD, RxList, NAMBLA NAMI, etc., the sources that are referenced throughout the site, our personal experience and the experiences family, friends, and what people have reported on various reputable sites all over teh intergoogles. As such the information presented here is not intended as a substitute for real medical advice from your real doctor, just a compliment to it. You should never, ever, replace what a real doctor tells you with something from a website on the Internet. The farthest you should ever take it is getting a second opinion from another real doctor. Educate yourself - always read the PI/SPC sheet or medication guide/patient information leaflet (PIL) that comes with your medications and never ever throw them away. OK, you can throw away duplicate copies, but keep at least one, as that’s your proof of purchase of having taken a med in case a doctor doubts your medical history. Plus they take up less space than a bottle, although keeping one inside of a pill bottle is even better.
Crazymeds is not responsible for the content of sites we provide links to. We like them, or they’re paid advertisements, or they’re something else we think you should read to help you make an informed decision about a particular med. Sometimes they’re more than one of those things. But what’s on those sites is their business, not ours.
Very little information about visitors to this site is collected or saved. From time to time I look at search terms used and which pages they bring up in an effort to make the information I present more relevant. And the country of origin, just because I’m geeky like that. That’s about it. Depending on how you feel about Schrodinger, our privacy policy should either assuage or exacerbate your paranoia.
Crazymeds is optimized for ridiculously large screens and browsers that don’t block ads. I use Firefox and Chrome, running under Windows 72. On a computer that sits on top of my desk. With a 23 inch monitor. Hey, at least you can make the text larger or smaller by clicking on the + or - buttons in the upper right hand corner. If you have Java enabled. Like 99% of the websites on the planet, Crazymeds is hosted on domain running an open source operating system with a variety of open source applications, including the software used to display what you’ve been reading. As such Crazymeds is not responsible for whatever weird shit your browser does or does not do when you read this site3.
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1 While there are plenty of books to help you with hypochondria, for some reason there’s not much in the way of websites. Then again, staying off of the Internet is a large part of curing/managing the disorder.

2 Remember kids, Microsloth operating systems are like TOS Star Trek movies with in that every other one sucks way, way more. With TOS Star Trek movies you don’t want to bother watching the odd-numbered ones. With Microsloth OS you don’t want to buy and install the even-numbered ones. Anyone who remembers ME and Vista knows what I mean.

3 Have I mentioned how open source operating systems for commercial applications is one of the dumbest ideas in the history of dumb ideas?* I don’t even need my big-ass rant any more. Heartbleed has made my case for me. And that’s just the one that got all the media attention. The very nature of an open source operating system makes security as much of an illusion as anonymity on teh Intergoogles. Before you flip out too much: the domain Crazymeds is hosted on uses a version of SSL that is not affected by the Heartbleed bug. That’s one of the many reasons why I pay a lot of money and keep this site on Lunarpages.

* Yes, I know I’m using open source browsers. I also test the site using the now-defunct IE and Safari browsers. Their popularity - and superiority - killed IE and Safari, so that’s why I rely on the open source browsers. It’s like brand vs. generic meds. Sometimes the generic is better than the brand.

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